It was bound to happen, but nonetheless i can't wait for this.

Thanks rem.

Now I need a new PC. I also found out that it's coming out on November 18th in North America and the 21st in Europe. Frickin' awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

I think most of the forums have been waiting to hear this. I can't wait for it

Best Mews I've heard so far this year, <3 Rockstar. Can't wait to play it!

Nice to hear this.

Atleast now people who don't own a console can get it for PC. I'm guessing soon people will be modding it?

Thank fuck for that!

Will defo be buying it.. along with a new comp or more memory lol.

So I bought that 360 for nothing?

>.>

<.<

I'd much rather have it on PC. Especially for moar multiplayer!

Take 2 announced through their email newsletter that GTA IV will indeed be released on the PC. No release date is currently set. Here is a quote from Sam Houser:

"We are very excited to be releasing the PC version of Grand Theft Auto IV," said Sam Houser, Founder of Rockstar Games. "The whole team is dedicated to bringing an amazing gaming experience to the PC. The game looks and plays beautifully on PC and we can't wait for people to play it."

The only new "feature" we know of right now is that the PC version will have expanded multiplayer, which is pretty exciting in my opinion. Stay tuned to The GTA Place for the latest GTA IV news!

WOOT!

Okay, I'm upgrading my PC faster.

Same, it'll be a bastard for memory and RAM lol. My RAM already sucks and I don't wanna spend like £100 on GTAIV and the PC

Fixed your news rem. Helps if you link to the press release and include the release date, important details you know

This is epic news though, what everyone expected and everyone was waiting for.

Same, it'll be a bastard for memory and RAM lol. My RAM already sucks

In the same position. I always complain on how my computer sucks and no one will do a darn thing about it.

Oh man. Can you imagine the amount of twats we're gonna get on here posting crap like "why duz GTA4 run so slow on my PC plz halp". Fucking kids on their parents computers...

Probably gonna need to employ some new moderators here!

I probably won't be buying a PC version however, if I get a new computer (All my games run on the laptop) I may get it but I'm not sure right now. All my computers/laptops are too crap to run this game probably.

I probably won't be buying a PC version however, if I get a new computer (All my games run on the laptop) I may get it but I'm not sure right now. All my computers/laptops are too crap to run this game probably.

If the controlls are difficult, I don't recommend you to play in a laptop.

Its lucky for me, because its really near my birthday so I might just ask for a RAM upgrade, One of those portable hard drives and GTAIV

I probably won't be buying a PC version however, if I get a new computer (All my games run on the laptop) I may get it but I'm not sure right now. All my computers/laptops are too crap to run this game probably.

If the controlls are difficult, I don't recommend you to play in a laptop.

I just attached a new keyboard onto the Lappy, controls are no problem for me and besides Laptop keyboards are usually smaller than the normal ones that you buy at shops. I am used to smaller keyboards with small keys.

Just buy an adapter for your old PS2 controller. PS2 controllers are the best for playing GTA games on the PC. Been using it to play them since GTA3

PC parts manufacturers are gonna love this news though. Think of all the people who must be upgrading their computers now. Everyone wanting Vista and a new graphics card so they can see the benefits of DX10. Everyone getting more RAM.

Glad I upgraded last year, will almost certainly pay off. 2.4GHz Core2Duo, 4GB RAM, 8800GTS 320MB, I can't wait for this. Will be pre-ordering as soon as it's available online somewhere

*ejaculates*

So... so happy right now ....

My birthday is on the 2nd (November) so I'm getting a new PC for mine.

CASE: Sigma Gaming Orca Case

CPU: (Socket AM2) AMD Athlon™ X2 6400+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology

RAM: Corsair 2GB (2x1GB)

GFX: NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT 512MB 16X PCI Express

Hard Drive: 320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD

Optical Drive: SONY DUAL FORMAT 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER

Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

Hopefully... this will be able to run it on full.

I'd double the amount of RAM there if you can afford it. Just to be sure. 2GB isn't that much these days, it's enough, but you know, this is GTAIV.

Just buy an adapter for your old PS2 controller. PS2 controllers are the best for playing GTA games on the PC. Been using it to play them since GTA3

PC parts manufacturers are gonna love this news though. Think of all the people who must be upgrading their computers now. Everyone wanting Vista and a new graphics card so they can see the benefits of DX10. Everyone getting more RAM.

Glad I upgraded last year, will almost certainly pay off. 2.4GHz Core2Duo, 4GB RAM, 8800GTS 320MB, I can't wait for this. Will be pre-ordering as soon as it's available online somewhere

Was just talking to Evo about the same thing on MSN. It's so much easier.

I'd double the amount of RAM there if you can afford it. Just to be sure. 2GB isn't that much these days, it's enough, but you know, this is GTAIV.

Might steal a gig of RAM from my current PC so it makes 3GB... lol

Lol, might as well, that's what I did before buying an extra 2x1GB sticks. Then I sold the old RAM

Man, this is gunna be so awesome! I actually can't wait. Only problem is with this year, I'm studying loads for my GCSE's and even if I get it, I won't have the time to play it due to studies.

I may get 2 more gigs of ram, So by November I'll be having 2.6C2D, 4gigs of Ram, one 8800Gt 1Gig. Don't think I'll be having Vista though! Hope its Xp friendly!

Is it going to be DX10 only?

Or it will support DX9 too?

If DX10 only then I better get new graphics card soon.

I'd double the amount of RAM there if you can afford it. Just to be sure. 2GB isn't that much these days, it's enough, but you know, this is GTAIV.

Might steal a gig of RAM from my current PC so it makes 3GB... lol

Lol!

I second that. When I upgrade I'm gonna steall a gig of RAM from my old PC, put it in the new and voilà.

I'm definetly getting GTA IV, even though my computer will be barely able to play it.

I may get 2 more gigs of ram, So by November I'll be having 2.6C2D, 4gigs of Ram, one 8800Gt 1Gig. Don't think I'll be having Vista though! Hope its Xp friendly!

Not bad, not bad at all.

Is it going to be DX10 only?

Or it will support DX9 too?

If DX10 only then I better get new graphics card soon.

And Vista. The only reason I'm getting Vista on mine is to seduce DX10.

Chris, I might just get an extra 2GB RAM from eBay if the game doesn't run smoothly with 2GB.

Well yeah we don't know what specs it will require yet, and if it'll take advantage of DX10 - but one would assume it will do.

Can't wait. Good thing I'm buying new PC this month.

Looks like I'll be needing to get some more RAM and a better graphics card for this but it'll be worth it.

So I bought that 360 for nothing?

>.>

<.<

I'd much rather have it on PC. Especially for moar multiplayer!

Hey, I'm on Xbox Live. That's gotta count for something. No?

Oh man. Can you imagine the amount of twats we're gonna get on here posting crap like "why duz GTA4 run so slow on my PC plz halp". Fucking kids on their parents computers...

Probably gonna need to employ some new moderators here!

I'm good at telling people they're idiots.

*ejaculates*

So... so happy right now ....

Wow, that kinda reminds me of when TM (I think) posted some pics of some hot piece of ass. That mess was a bitch to clean up! Anyway, I wonder what extras the multiplayer will have. It's not gonna make me re-buy the game and upgrade my POS PC, but I'm still curious.

Oh man. Can you imagine the amount of twats we're gonna get on here posting crap like "why duz GTA4 run so slow on my PC plz halp". Fucking kids on their parents computers...

Probably gonna need to employ some new moderators here!

I'm good at telling people they're idiots.

You may well be but there's more to being a moderator than just the ability to tell people off.

This made my day! Well we all new this was inevitable, but now thats its confirmed its time to start to prepare. Lucky for me I already have a

Vista! Although I'm going be busy has hell this fall, it won't prevent me from playing it on my PC. And shit 0 on my playstation was certainly

worth it!

I leave for two days and when I come back, I find this

Yep, gotta improve my stealing abilities 'cuz my parents will never give me money for the upgrade I want and deserve.

Haha, Gycu knows I'm happy that it's coming out for PC.

I'm so buying it..

and lolz to the RAM comments:

I currently have 1gb of RAM.

Yes, I know that is not good.

Mod time!

The engine has changed, so what will the new Zmodeler or Moomapper be like?

hehe coooll. i knew this was finally gonna happen

and newly expanded multiplayer just for the PC

take that console fanboys! jks

so GTA Don you are gonna get that pc? cool.

as for me, i'l probably need a new pc as well this one can run san andreas 800x600 full and not much more. damn laptop graphics!

Nice... Now that's an epic win for R*, and solved the problem of irate fans demanding the PC release of IV.

FUCK YES. Can't believe i didn't see this yet.

Only downside is that i still have to wait another 4 months.

nice news. i hope i'm able to buy it

After the ESRB putting it up on their site at the as a PC game it sort of was coming.. Too bad they did it so early actually..

Anyway, fuck yeah, they better improve the graphics.

Hopefully, they'll make this the superior version

It probably will be. Expanded multiplayer ftw...

WOOT!

Finally GTA IV is being released for PC

I gotta get this game!

What's the requirements?

WOOT!

Finally GTA IV is being released for PC

I gotta get this game!

What's the requirements?

And I'm also waiting for that, Ice... Any more and we'll start modding it; an early proof-of-concept mod for the 360 version (although this isn't encouraged due to legal reasons) has already been done in the GTA Forums, you know...

What's already been done?

"The game looks and plays beautifully on PC and we can't wait for people to play it." Is this a sign that it's already been completed? Can't be...

Not 100%. He's most likely referring to beta builds that he's seen or played himself.

After mocking from the console fan club The news bring some relief.. just can't wait till November

Hmm, I've been thinking about GTA IV specs. I believe they'll be the same as Boiling Point (or a bit more), because, I mean Boiling Point has almost the same graphic level as GTA IV and it works on my crappy pc in High Settings.

What do you think?

Confirmed! now i can not argue, i need 2 get a new PC, cuz im gonna want all of these mods ill be seeing, and i dont wanna b stuck with my xbox 360 version with no mods

Thats some nice news to hear! But for some reason I have a bad fealing about this... But if its much better than the PS3 version or the 360. I would recomend you to buy it.

I hope the specs are confirmed soon, i need a new PC for this

Here's where R* gets the epic win. Release the PC version compatible to SA specs & have an upgrade code for better

graphics you can redeem when you register your copy of GTA4.

People can play the games on the machines they have now, those w/ better machines can instantly upgrade.

Everybody wins. (Computer companies don't count on this one as most people won't buy a new computer just for 1 game.

^ if only

i dont think they'll do this

i think (total opinion) that if your computer is on par with the minimums here then you'l be able to play gta4. obviously if you are just meeting the bare minimums then you wont be able to have high res or high graphics etc.

You would be surprised .. hehe.. Of course it depends on specs, but just take a look in the past... honestly, how many people upgraded because of crysis?? And it's not only GTA4 coming out this fall... take Fallout3 for example... Mafia2

Just saw on the GFW site that GFW games can run on both XP and Vista. So yeah, it will have support for DX9.

I hope you guys didnt forget that fingerless gloves will be coming to this version.

I hope you guys didnt forget that fingerless gloves will be coming to this version.

So PC users get the game+cake?

Err... where did you hear that?

It failed to come out for the original version. Since the PC *newer* v.2 is going to be released, it should be released with it, I hope.

Who said anything about v2...

It's going to be a PC version of the game, nothing else has been confirmed.

Yeah, right, but at least we got something to talk about until it hits the stores...

yay! w00t!

Anyone thinking of MODing a game like this is mentally sick in the head . so unless the game has a few glithes the only mods i would download would be patches(fix)

Well thats my opinion untill it kinda gets abit old, then i might think of car mods (if there is any)

I'm probably going to get a HD 4870 now, heard it's the best card on the market right now.

I'm probably going to get a HD 4870 now, heard it's the best card on the market right now.

It'll be shit expensive atm. Plus, plain shit. Alot of cards now are having pre-driver crapness. (low performance, artifacts, software bugs, incompatibility) Wait until the card's been out a while.

Finally. I may get it for PC. If i dont ill get it on PS3. If i get it on PC id be popular on youtube lol.

I'm probably going to get a HD 4870 now, heard it's the best card on the market right now.

It'll be shit expensive atm. Plus, plain shit. Alot of cards now are having pre-driver crapness. (low performance, artifacts, software bugs, incompatibility) Wait until the card's been out a while.

How about the 4850? I hear that the 4850 is the best budget card out right now, and it's faster than the 9800 GTX in some cases. Money isn't a problem for me right now, just perfomance and stability.

Hey Don,

I'm kinda into HW and from what I read and know from my own experience best card for the money is still 8800GT (GTS). Do not compare nvidia 9 series for it is nothing more than g92core cards which means 9 series are crap... 8 series with new boxing and names... the most powerful 9 series card is GX2 but when you have 2 8800GT's in SLI they will outperform it.. 4870 is a good card though as mentioned before... there is still catalyst issue and the card is not overclockable (for now).. and if money is not a problem go for GTX280

9 Series aren't really any different to the 8 series. An 8800 would probably, misleadingly so, outperform a 9600 (it'd have to be 8800GT and 9600GT, for example.), but that doesn't stop the 9600 being a good card. The lower level 9 series are astonishingly cheap, too, but will still haul a steady framerate on max in most games (i get a constant 50 something in COD4, max, at 1680x1050).

The point i also want to make is you don't NEED a 9800GTX. Unless you're planning to run a 40" plasma screen or some balls like that then there simply is NO NEED.

My advice: The 8800 is still the definitive card on the market, getting cheap now, And you won't need anything more unless you plan to go past a 26 or something + inch screen.

I agree... and I didn't say 9 series are bad cards... I only think that it is a crap from nVidia's side to sell same product in different package for a higher price... finally: 8800GT (GTS) is the way to go...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-g...-card,1987.html

8800GT costs now around 0 where Radeon 4870 costs 0 - which means for almost same money you can get 8800GT SLI!!! and this in some cases outperforms GTX280!!!!

I'm gonna get GeForce 9600 ASAP.

DirectX 10 and Shader Model 3.

That should let me play GTA4.

DeAtH, read some articles, 8800gt has better or equal performance than 9600 google 8800GT vs 9600GT, you'll find some interesting debates about this topic...

I just want to know whether my laptop can play GTA 4 on medium details or not, so far i have played the following games on my laptop:-

Call Of Duty 2 ( highest detail )

Call Of Duty 4 ( highest detail )

LOST Via Domus ( high detail )

The Sims 2 ( highest detail )

Gears of War ( high detail )

Crysis ( High detail only shadow on medium detail )

Assassin's Creed (highest detail only shadow on high detail )

World In Conflict ( high detail )

Mass Effect ( high detail )

Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars ( highest detail )

Specs of my laptop are as follows:-

Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.0 GHz T7300

Windows Vista Home premium 32-Bit

3 GB DDR2 RAM

320 GB Hard disk

256 MB Dedicated + 767 MB Shared Graphics = Total 1023 MB of Graphics ( Nvidia Geforce 8600M GS with pixel and vertex shader = 4.0 and DirectX 10 playable )

Realtek HD Audio Sound

Please tell me if i can play GTA 4 on Very low, Low, Medium or High Detail, or i cant play GTA 4 on these specs? lol Thanx

If you read the posts before - we don't know, but judging from the other games you can play I say your safe.

If you read the posts before - we don't know, but judging from the other games you can play I say your safe.

Thanx Allot

DeAtH, read some articles, 8800gt has better or equal performance than 9600 google 8800GT vs 9600GT, you'll find some interesting debates about this topic...

In any case, the 9600 is cheaper.

But yeah, Fahran, i think you'll be able to run IV nicely. Medium probably, maybe a bit more.

Ko0L , Cant wait for GTA 4

lol guys the 8800 GT for 0!?!. I would so own that card by now, unfortunately where I live is 0-0 ( overclocked ) , and these are the lowest prices, went to other stores, in there it's almost 0.

When do you guys think R* will release the official system requirements? It should happen before the release of the game right? We must know ASAP.

How many people said it wouldn't come to PC? Hurr...

Also since it's coming on Steam it will be easily accessible, but hopefully we can pre-load content like Valve does. It's also looking to be released around the same time Saints Row 2 is for all three platforms (though I think they are bluffing about the PC version), so it's going to be another good year for games.

Where does it say it's coming out on Steam? I'm not doubting it but did it say that somewhere?

Rockstar has a contract with them dawg, why do you think every game Rockstar has ever made for PC except lemmings was released on Steam?

I asked this question to R* when I was in New York (about IV being released on Steam). I may have mentioned this in the TGTAP feature article but I'm not sure so I'll say it again here.

The response I got was along the lines of "well I'm not sure, but seeing as how we've got the whole series now on Steam it's likely we will release GTA IV that way too".

Only thing is we have no idea if they'll immediately release it this way or perhaps wait a couple of weeks/months? Wouldn't have thought they would because there's no point - just a possibility I suppose.

@Gycu: They're usually "leaked" out. SA was anyway because we were the first site to get hold of them (yay first for once!) and they turned out to be legit. I'll have a quick look to see when that was in relation to the release date.

EDIT: Whenever websites receive preview copies of the game. Which I'm guessing is gonna be in the next couple of months...

I think there should be a Bioshock style release.

Steam account holders could download, register the game, and it would be unlocked the very minute the game is officially released. Also would be win for Eurofags, not having to wait the 3 extra days.

Do it R*

Am I the only who doesn't really adore Steam?

I love Steam because I don't need to insert the CD, but on the other hand I just like having the box of the game on the shelf. Somehow..

Other then that, it sometimes just won't start up my game. I'll be waiting and waiting and waiting.. but nothing will hapen. That's like once every 5 times, which is just to often actually. Though it's better now then it used to be, it still has quite some problems here and there.

I'll probably buy the box version simply because I can't be arsed to download 6.5GB. And boxes do look quite good on my games shelf.

But Steam is pretty awesome though, never any discs to worry about etc.

Yeah, i find it won't start a few of my games, but as a way to chat ingame, and buy exclusive games, you couldn't ask for more.

I'll undoubtedly buy it off the shelf, going in on Tuesday to pre-order, and my Bro's picking it up come November.

My DL speed is shit inconsistent, so by the time it's DL'd, i could have made my way to the store and back, with solely the use of wind power.

Steam is convenient, but it's a steaming pile of shit usually(Shitty steam overlay, myspace Jr. community, lots of account stealers). If GTA4 is available on steam, I'd get it on steam.

As long as you use a secure, unique password for your account and don't fall for this 'Vac technician' and 'We need your pass for betas' crap, your account is perfectly safe.

Steam is convenient, but it's a steaming pile of shit usually(Shitty steam overlay, myspace Jr. community, lots of account stealers). If GTA4 is available on steam, I'd get it on steam.

HURR DURR

Also the overlay and community are both optional, you can disable the overlay and turn off friends if you don't like it.

Oh and since it's also going to be using Games for Windows Live you can use your Xbox Live Gold account with it which potentially means the downloadable content will be on PC as well. (It is a Microsoft platform as well, after all)

Am I the only who doesn't really adore Steam?

I love Steam because I don't need to insert the CD, but on the other hand I just like having the box of the game on the shelf. Somehow..

Other then that, it sometimes just won't start up my game. I'll be waiting and waiting and waiting.. but nothing will hapen. That's like once every 5 times, which is just to often actually. Though it's better now then it used to be, it still has quite some problems here and there.

Exactly! Steam is very convienent but I just love having a box case. Same goes with music on my iPod, I need to see the album cover when I play my iPod. A.K.A. I buy off of iTunes.

This is going off topic but you do realise you don't have to buy off itunes just to see album artwork. You can simply right click any song and "Get Album Artwork". Or if there is none just add it manually by dragging an image into the artwork space.

I'm not retarded (However retarded my name implies! ) enough to lose my account, but thousands of people are.

I like friends, but I liked the old friend's list much better. All it was, was when you're in a game, press escape, and click the "Freinds" button. Steam has done the same thing with the overlay, just made it a hell of a lot laggier. Is there a way to turn the overlay off and use the old friend's list? I can't seem to find a setting to do so.

I am planning to buy a pc for gta IV

Processor: Intel C2D 8500 (3.16 GHz)

Motherboard: ASUS P5Q PRO

RAM: Transcend 4GB DDR2(800MHZ)

HDD : Seagate 500 GB

GFX Card: ATI Radeon HD 4850 512 MB

Monitor : Viewsonic 19"

Speakers : Altec Lansing 5.1

Is this configuration enough to run GTA IV at highest settings?

Hell yeah. Though I recommend you buy Corsair for your RAM.

Yeah of course you can. I would also recommend Corsair for RAM but it's not necessary.

Would all of you wondering whether or not your PC will run GTA IV well please now use this dedicated topic as it would be a lot more sensible to keep it all in one place. Thanks.

You can continue normal discussion of the PC announcement here of course

Grand Theft Auto IV Predicted PC System Requirements Released By gta4.tv Official GTA 4 TV Website:-

Predicted Minimum Specifications (NOT OFFICIAL)

These specifications are from the PC version of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. We believe Grand Theft Auto IV will have similar, if not slightly higher minimum system requirements.

* CPU: Intel® Pentium® 4 2.4 GHz or AMD® Athlon 64 2800+ processor or any 1.8Ghz Dual Core Processor or better supported

* RAM: 512MB RAM (768MB for Windows Vista)

* Harddrive: 8GB of free hard drive space

* Video card (generic): NVIDIA® Geforce 6600 or better or ATI® Radeon® 9800Pro or better

Predicted Recommended Specifications (NOT OFFICIAL)

These specifications are from the PC version of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. We believe Grand Theft Auto IV will have similar, if not slightly higher recommended system requirements.

* CPU: 2.4 GHz dual core or better is recommended

* RAM: 1GB for XP; 2GB for Vista is recommended

* Harddrive: 8GB of free hard drive space

* Video card: 3.0 Shader Support recommended. Nvidia Geforce 7800 or better or ATI Radeon X1800 or better

Source:- http://www.gta4.tv/page/38/pc-version-spec...tions&vo=17

This Information Should come in the front page of Thegtaplace.com, Very useful Information

Those requirements are just predicted by Gta4.tv, Its not the official requirements. Gta4.tv is a fansite similar to Thegtaplace. We have a similar topic here too, Read the post above your's

im seeing alot about "steam"?, wtf?

im seeing alot about "steam"?, wtf?

http://steampowered.com/

you dont know what steam is?

what rock do you live under?

OFFICIAL boxart according to GTAGaming.

all I have to say is..Kickass. Really...KICKASS!

The games for windows Live will be great because it's free and will allow us to play with XBOX 360 players

The games for windows Live will be great because it's free

Yes.

and will allow us to play with XBOX 360 players

No. We get additional multiplayer content. Plus the fact that it uses Steam too, I don't see this happening.

Any word yet on specs?

I don't think so, if Rockstar announces them, then it's most likely that they appear on the official site like previous GTA's.

Nah, they'll probably come when the gaming sites (IGN etc.) get to preview the game.

Minimum:

Operating system: Windows XP Service Pack 2 or Higher

CPU: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 / AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 4400+

Video card: ATI Radeon™ X1650 / NVIDIA® GeForce 7300GT with 256MB VRAM or higher

Memory: 1GB (1.5GB for Windows Vista)

8X speed DVD-ROM

Recommended:

Operating system: Windows Vista Home Premium Service Pack 1 or Higher

CPU: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 5000+ / Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E8190

Video card: ATI Radeon™ HD 3650 / NVIDIA® GeForce 8600GT with 256MB VRAM or higher

Memory: 2GB

16X speed DVD-ROM

or

Windows 2000/XP/Vista

Intel Core2Duo E4600 / AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+

1GB of RAM (Windows 2000/XP)/2GB of RAM (Windows Vista)

nVidia 8xxx series/ATi 28xx/38xx series

They're not real, just my guess and Chris82 for the second one. Mine are really specific, but Chris82's are probably really closer.

What about HDD Space?

Just skimmed through another topic that has predicted specs, but thanks for taking a minute.

So it looks like I need a better chip & video, I was planning on an upgrade anyway. After playing the X360 version I

would guess the HD requirement would be a little bigger than SA. Smaller map but more high res textures & better

models. I would guess 5-8 gig depending on how much you install. SA requires 3.6 for minimum install.

6.8GB at least for hard drive space, maybe 7. Assuming we have the option to not install the radio stations that may be cut down by a gig or so. We'll say 8GB to be on the safe side.

My birthday is on the 2nd (November) so I'm getting a new PC for mine.

CASE: Sigma Gaming Orca Case

CPU: (Socket AM2) AMD Athlon™ X2 6400+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology

RAM: Corsair 2GB (2x1GB)

GFX: NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT 512MB 16X PCI Express

Hard Drive: 320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD

Optical Drive: SONY DUAL FORMAT 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER

Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

Hopefully... this will be able to run it on full.

Your new computer spec is really fantastic....

Thanks, but I actually changed my choice now.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor @ 3GHz CPU

Corsair 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 RAM

Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 512MB PCI-Express

Logitech MX518 Wired Optical Gaming Mouse

Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard

Right under £500, buying the parts from Newegg.

Logitech g-15 = waste of money.

You get a screen that tells you server info? you don't need that shit. Stick with a g11, IMO.

Haha, I was going to get a G11 earlier, they both look the same anyways. I'll probably get a G11 now. Any tips on what to upgrade/downgrade?

Apart from asking what mobo you're going to get?

You'll need one with AM2 (possibly am2+) platform, and crossfire support.

ASUS motherboards are fine, also DON'T GET A G11 IF YOU THINK THE G15 ONLY DISPLAYS SERVER INFO, it's a piece of shit, you realize the G15's screen can also tell you what song is playing in Winamp/iTunes/whatever, let you see IMs/chats/Ventrilo/whatnot as well.

Oh my gawd, on one hand the G11 is cheaper, on the other hand the G15 has that nice screen that tells you stuff and is better but also 15 quid more expensive. Meh, guess I could sacrifice that £15. And just when I was saving for a new foot!

ASUS motherboards are fine, also DON'T GET A G11 IF YOU THINK THE G15 ONLY DISPLAYS SERVER INFO, it's a piece of shit, you realize the G15's screen can also tell you what song is playing in Winamp/iTunes/whatever, let you see IMs/chats/Ventrilo/whatnot as well.

Most of us, though, have ears and know which song's playing anyway. Plus you only need the IM features if you're in a game, in which case you'd use xfire/steam... if you weren't ingame you just llok at your screen.

Most of us, though, have ears and know which song's playing anyway. Plus you only need the IM features if you're in a game, in which case you'd use xfire/steam... if you weren't ingame you just llok at your screen.

Maybe some people download ungodly amounts of music and wouldn't know what song is playing...in any case it's nice to see it. And by IM features I meant real IM...as in AIM/MSN/Yahoo/etc....and who the fuck still uses Xfire lol?

Maybe some people download ungodly amounts of music and wouldn't know what song is playing...in any case it's nice to see it.

x2

Meh, just don't tend to fall for gimicky things (well, yeah i do) but

Lol, i haven't used xfire in ages, last time i did was made an account to speak to a friend once while kicked his ass at AOE III online.

Don, ASUS mobos are fine or lets just say - well done... but I would go for Intel platform (used to be AMD positive guy, but no longer) AMD just can't catch up (sadly) with latest technology... on the other hand, AM2 socket was here for quite some time now... only god knows how much longer will it stay (meaning - scarce chance of future upgrade) and this also applies LGA775, it is also somewhere at the end of it's existence... For a keyboard I'd go for Razer G11 & G15 are huge!! And one last question - what OS are you planning to use? If it's 32-bit then there is no use of 4GB Ram maybe go for 2GB. It won't save you much money but you can always upgrade... And for Ram once more... check your usage of mem when using your comp. even when playing games it hardly reaches 1,5GB (and that's Crysis) so I believe there is no use for 4GB just yet.

I know telling you 2GB is enough when I - myself have 4 might look strange ) but I use MS Server 2008 64-bit with no pagefile and got few VM's running on it... for general purpose and gaming 2 is more than enough...

I find Intel too expensive. It's not like I'm an AMD fanboy, but AMD processors seem to be very stable for me. Although I may upgrade my rig to a Intel Nehalem or AMD Shanghai in the future. I'll be using Vista Home Premium 64-bit--32-bit is okay, but I just want to take full advantage of my RAM.

Don, ASUS mobos are fine or lets just say - well done... but I would go for Intel platform (used to be AMD positive guy, but no longer) AMD just can't catch up (sadly) with latest technology... on the other hand, AM2 socket was here for quite some time now... only god knows how much longer will it stay (meaning - scarce chance of future upgrade) and this also applies LGA775, it is also somewhere at the end of it's existence... For a keyboard I'd go for Razer G11 & G15 are huge!! And one last question - what OS are you planning to use? If it's 32-bit then there is no use of 4GB Ram maybe go for 2GB. It won't save you much money but you can always upgrade... And for Ram once more... check your usage of mem when using your comp. even when playing games it hardly reaches 1,5GB (and that's Crysis) so I believe there is no use for 4GB just yet.

Actually on DX10 with maximum sound and texture settings, Crysis can easily use 3GB of RAM if it's made available.

@chris: I can hardly imagine those settings on above mentioned 4850

Don, some good intel's aren't that expensive.. (freedom of choice!)

lol, 4850 is one of the best cards available right now, extremely powerful, can run Crysis/CoD4/everything no problem, should easily take IV.

The only reason I'm getting Vista on mine is to seduce DX10.

Why would you want to seduce a 3D rendering program...

I hope it works on a P4 and a GeForce 6600.....

I hope it works on a P4 and a GeForce 6600.....

Does yours have pixel shader? My GeForce card on this old machine doesn't and it seems everything I look at in the stores these days requires pixel shader... I either have to find a new card or stop buying new games. I know it's a conspiracy to sell new high end graphics cards. They could just have the option to shut some features down in the software. I really don't care what shade my pixels are!!

JAB

Pixel Shaders are a technology that makes the game pixels better, a.k.a better video quality.

I would choose the option to buy a new card.

I wonder if the PC will get some sort of DLC as its microsoft, maybe, or not, fingers crossed tho

Logitech g-15 = waste of money.

You get a screen that tells you server info? you don't need that shit. Stick with a g11, IMO.

I have to agree. I think the screen would be a waste.

I cant agree on the G11 though. It's fucking useless, the G keys are shit. If you want a good keyboard with similar features as the G keyboards(without the barely programmable waste-of-space G keys): http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboard...71&cl=us,en

Thats a good keyboard if you can get used to the wave.

Trust me, you wont use the G keys for binding, or atleast in games you wont.

True that. I'd use it for Photoshop commands. That other keyboard is simply hideous, but i suppose it's nice to use, hand position and stuff.

Back on topic now. I was thinking y'day that there should be a special edition for us PC users. Suppose you could always buy the 360 version, sell off the game and buy the PC vers. with it. Only 25GBP on Play, which absolutely kicks ass. PC games are so much cheaper than consoles. I think developers feel sorry for us having to upgrade the whole time.

Hideous? What're you into? White boxy keyboards?

OH BABY!!!

I did say back on topic, but since you're determined to doubt my likes / dislikes in keyboards, here.

My Saitek Eclipse...Quite simply one of the best looking keyboards there is. Now shut up and get on topic like i said, or have a warning come your way.

Uh, I've got a G15 and it's totally worth it.

I use the screen a lot, but not for games actually.. But I love the keyboard. Perfect keys and I really wouldn't want to do without that backlight. Also, the backlight is done very neat. Very good buy IMO (got it for 70 EUR).

Edit: Oh, that's the G15 V2 I'm talking about. G15 V1 looked rather ugly IMO...

V2:

About the 4850: Though it is indeed a card with a midrange price point, it has performance exceeding that of the 8800 GTX and even slightly over that of the Ultra (not in all games, due to the mem interface of the G80 based cards, but usually they are).

Actually on DX10 with maximum sound and texture settings, Crysis can easily use 3GB of RAM if it's made available.

Crysis max usage is 'just' 1300 mb. Vista pre-loads lots of stuff to make everything run a bit faster when you need it. Mem usage will show to be 3GB, but you're probably just using 2 GB if you subtract all that preloaded stuff.

Warhead apparently uses 2100 though, so that's going to really be a memory hog. Glad I didn't go for 2 in the end...

I did say back on topic, but since you're determined to doubt my likes / dislikes in keyboards, here.

Sorry about that, I tend to post before thinking(Or reading) a lot of the time.

Wont happen again, cap'n.